Tools on ps231-3

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Tools on ps231-3

Postby Jaakko Pihlaja » Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:08 pm

Any info on tools on left hull side?

On right side is the tool boxes and spare tracks etc.

All pictures I have seen are from right side of tank...

Also any info or reference on 3-colour camoufalge would be fun... :)
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Re: Tools on ps231-3

Postby AndreasLarka » Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:14 pm

Jaakko Pihlaja wrote:Any info on tools on left hull side?

I don't have any pictures here at work, so I'll have to get back to you later. There are SA-pics of both camo and tools.
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Postby Jaakko Pihlaja » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:07 pm

I think this one goes to category "must be done"...

Since Mr. Lehväslaiho has sent me his book "Syväri murtuu" with personal letter and we are from same neighborhood, well at least he lived here quite a long time...
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Re: Tools on ps231-3

Postby AndreasLarka » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:00 pm

Jaakko Pihlaja wrote:Any info on tools on left hull side?

Left side of the hull, front to back: 4 spare tracks between the front holders for the extra fuel tanks, an empty space (roughly the size of a couple of spare tracks), then the fire-extinguisher box (the one that opens from the side, very much like the ones on the T-34-85's) and at the rear the same kind of shovel and iron bar holders as on Ps.231-2. On the left fender are the towing-cables.

I recommend checking out the following SA-photos: 145.403, 145.405, 145.407 and 148.945 - 148.960. Available from PvKK in Santahamina, Helsinki.
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Re: Tools on ps231-3

Postby Jaakko Pihlaja » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:14 pm

AndreasLarka wrote:... then the fire-extinguisher box (the one that opens from the side, very much like the ones on the T-34-85's)...


Like this? Probably without bolts...

http://www.andreaslarka.net/ps245003/2004_24500346.jpg
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Re: Tools on ps231-3

Postby AndreasLarka » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:18 pm

Jaakko Pihlaja wrote:Like this?

Yep. Welded smack down to the middle of the side of the Sotka.

EDIT: Mr. Ulf Andersson from Sweden have made a model of the very same Sotka. It's quite nice (except for the skinny hakaristis).

http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/thread/1157317890/Piece+of+Mind
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Postby Jaakko Pihlaja » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:52 pm

Got those pictures yesterday... Nice...

I'm apparently having a temporary shorr circuit...

Just can't remember when this tank was in those "molotov cocktail tests"...

In pictures there is some snow on the ground, tank is R-numbered BUT some kind of camouflage is somewhat visible AND there is 323 (another short circuit?).
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Postby AndreasLarka » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:44 pm

Jaakko Pihlaja wrote:Just can't remember when this tank was in those "molotov cocktail tests"...

145.407 "Yksikkö 9438. Evl. K.J. Haatajan pyynnöstä kuvattu sotasaalispanssarivaunuja. Opetuskuvia lähitorjuntaa varten. 30.1.1944. Äänislinna. Käppäselkä."

148.958 "Sokaisupullo palaa hyökkäysvaunun etuosassa. Lappeenranta 18. - 20.4.1944."
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Postby Jaakko Pihlaja » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:50 pm

Did you notice oil/fuel measuring stick behind those 4 spare track shoes in one of those pictures..? :)
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Postby AndreasLarka » Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:07 pm

Jaakko Pihlaja wrote:Did you notice oil/fuel measuring stick behind those 4 spare track shoes in one of those pictures..? :)

Nope, but now that you said it, there it is!
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Postby M.E.M.A. » Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:36 am

What is a fuel/oil measuring stick behind the track shoes? Does the photo find from a book mentioned by Jaakko and Andreas, or here Andreas' home pages?

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Postby AndreasLarka » Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:07 am

M.E.M.A. wrote:Does the photo find from a book mentioned by Jaakko and Andreas, or here Andreas' home pages?

Nope, and sorry for the "insider talk". The photos are "SA-kuva" -photos and they can be ordered from the Finnish Army, but - because of copyright issues - they can't be shown here on the forum.
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Postby M.E.M.A. » Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:43 pm

OK, all is right. It's indeed a copy-protected SA photo about the T-34 fuel/oil measuring stick. I will have to go into a library for searching some panzer books.
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Postby Jaakko Pihlaja » Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:43 am

I don't think that measuring stick is relevant, probably crew only forgot that there.

But I'll try to remember to take picture on this stick. Pretty simple.. Just flatbar with oval shaped handle...
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Postby Jaakko Pihlaja » Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:33 pm

After I TRIED to get 3-tone camo look correct on my stug, I came to conlclusion that camo is too complex...

Do you happen to know what modifications were made on 231-3 before it got 3-tone camo?

With Model-kasten tracks and Js-model sets, I'd hate to destroy my model with bad camo...
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